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Poster: | grendelschoice | Date: | Apr 23, 2009 8:08am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: venting(the dead related) |
I remember the gate crashers literally caving in the fence at Irvine Meadows in 1987 and rolling like bowling balls down the hill, crashing into people w/tickets, shoving them aside to get away from the cops trying (uselessly) to herd them up.
A minority of asswipes who spoiled it for the rest of us, but enough of a presence to bring about the beginning of the end.
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Poster: | cousinkix1953 | Date: | Apr 24, 2009 5:54am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: venting(the dead related) |
This post was modified by cousinkix1953 on 2009-04-24 12:54:11
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Poster: | fenario80 | Date: | Apr 23, 2009 9:33am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: venting(the dead related) |
However, 1987 was also the year that I first remember all the drunken frat boys at Irvine, singing along to Sugaree ... in hindsight, that is really when we all should have known it was over. Not to say they didn't make some good music after that - I'm particularly fond of the Bruce era myself - but the scene was completely and utterly over the moment "In The Dark" was released.
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Poster: | lobster12 | Date: | Apr 23, 2009 9:56am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: venting(the dead related) |
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Poster: | grendelschoice | Date: | Apr 23, 2009 1:19pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: venting(the dead related) |
I actually did not encounter those probs w/the cops and delays getting in as fenario did at Irvine '87, but heard about them afterward...
as for the gate crashers my distinct impression was that most of them never had tickets to begin with (remember the warnings the band started posting around '87--if you don't have tix, don't show up?)...well, i'd say 90% of these clowns never had any intention of buying a ticket and couldn't have been prouder of themselves for acting like apes and literally bursting onto the scene.
it was bizarre b/c just one year earlier at Hampton I literally drove into the lot knowing i could get tix for all 3 nights w/no hassle (I did)...and at face value to boot. But I also knew making that crazy trek that I was taking a chance at not getting in at all and would have been alright (tho' pretty bumbed) w/camping out at the car and partying w/my friends after. Never did I consider smashing thru a door to get in.
and the trash? Holy crap. It's the reason faux hippies everywhere are despised for their bullshit hypocrisy re: "love Mother Earth"....you should have seen I-91 in Vermont after the "final" Phish show...looked like goddamned Armageddon had come and stopped at Burger King on the way out.
Ridiculous.
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Apr 23, 2009 7:57pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: venting(the dead related) |
It might have even been silly to imagine it otherwise, right? No matter what the "average outlook" of a group might be, when the group is out for a good time, ingesting any number of substances that might preclude clear thinking and good deed doing, it just might not be the right context for good behavior. Or, we are just hypocrites as you note, GC.
Maybe, but maybe not, if it was "posted" that there was a "clean up day" following a concert by the DEAD would we find that all of us, here, LMA, etc., or at least more than the Bills fans (?) would show up to do the right thing?...I am not even sure that was true then, or today. And I defn don't know if it is LESS true today..."
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Poster: | spacedface | Date: | Apr 23, 2009 11:19pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: venting(the dead related) |
Mmm, no, the above is part of it but the crowds seemed pushier. And even being inside the show very early didn't mean you could get a decent seat. In the latter days., people thought they could save vast tracts of seats for people who wouldn't come for hours.